Lord of the Flies


In Lord of the Flies a group of boys are stranded on an island with no adult supervision.  At first they elect a chief and things seem to be going well, but eventually their little society deteriorates and they start fighting among themselves, eventually leading to violence.  Why is it so hard to communicate with others in a hostile situation?

 

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  1. AnonymousMay 25, 2012 at 8:44 AM

    I think it is hard to communicate because you are scared and you don't know what to do. Most people think they know what to do and don't want other options.

    xKINGwasabix

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    1. ChiliBeanMay 25, 2012 at 8:57 AM

      Or you want the power instead.

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    2. Bieber FeverMay 29, 2012 at 9:57 AM

      I'd like to disagree, for the fact of the matter that I believe it's hard to communicate due to no parental supervision on a hostile environment. :-) #QuinnT

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  2. ChiliBeanMay 25, 2012 at 8:46 AM

    Everyone wants to be a leader and it isn't always easy to succumb and let one person be boss. Especially with the maturity of kids, everyone wants a say; and when they don't get what they want, people split and friendships are broken.

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    1. xKINGwasabixMay 25, 2012 at 8:55 AM

      I agree with ChileBean because it is very true at that age. Everyone wants to be a leader and they all want to be right. Once people start to disagree, they start to split

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    2. AnonymousMay 29, 2012 at 10:02 AM

      I partially disagree because if everyone works together there is no need to have a leader. This will always create anger in a group and a power struggle.
      -Big Boy Nigel

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    3. SquarepantsMay 29, 2012 at 8:27 PM

      I disagree with Big Boy Nigel. There is always a leader in every group whether one is elected or not. It is more of a personality trait to be a leader. In every group there is always one person who plans, and organizes while the others follow. It's not a bad thing, its just human nature. But the reason why the leadership on the island didn't work was because there were two leaders. Then it turns into the Alpha wolf concept where one tries to challenge the other.

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    4. Bieber FeverMay 30, 2012 at 9:11 AM

      I agree sometimes, it is also hard to not succumb and let one person lead, because everyone wants their opinion to be heard and have their way.

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  3. AnonymousMay 25, 2012 at 8:51 AM

    I think people struggle to communicate when in hostile situations because no one enjoys conversing with someone who hates or dislikes them. Also, once you stop talking to someone it becomes difficult to open doors of communication again. Communication takes effort on two or more peoples part in order to be effective and one side refuses to communicate, communication is inhibited.

    runner12

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    1. ChiliBeanMay 25, 2012 at 8:58 AM

      I would agree, most dictators don't like being told that their wrong. The power hypnotizes.

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    2. DogsMay 25, 2012 at 9:02 AM

      I agree because at that age you dont really understand how to take critisism whether it is constructive or not you jusdt feel like your being insulted.

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    3. Professor MeowingtonMay 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM

      ^ agreed. Instead of thinking about what someone said, you become hostile and think that they are belittling you so you get frustrated.
      -Professor Meowington

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    4. Bieber FeverMay 29, 2012 at 10:01 AM

      I agree and it's especially hard to communicate, when you have a say in something but people don't agree or don't listen. Also when you think your opinion on a topic is better than what the group thinks, it doesn't make you feel heard or like you have a voice or say in decisions.

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    5. FootballRocks25May 29, 2012 at 2:58 PM

      I completely agree. When people don't want to listen people loften get frusterated and when communicating it takes at least two people because somebody has to listen.

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  4. VoltronMay 25, 2012 at 8:51 AM

    Without a set leader, people in general are set loose and eventually become savage and violent towards all around them. I would say that the reason people can't get along without true order is that others want to express their opinions and at times this isn't an option. They get angry and lash out on everyone else.

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    1. CaptainAmericaMay 25, 2012 at 9:50 AM

      yes without order there will always be chaos. People are naturally savage and without rules or laws there will be violence

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    2. AnonymousMay 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM

      Are people naturally savage? Or do specific situations make them act savagely? I think rules are important but I also believe in the good of mankind...

      Squarepants

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    3. Bieber FeverMay 30, 2012 at 9:13 AM

      I agree, I believe the main reason behind this statement is that people want everyone to have the same thoughts and reasoning in hostile situations that they do..

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  5. SelenaGomezWantsMeMay 25, 2012 at 8:53 AM

    Having one single leader seems like it should be able to work, but people get upset when they do not get their way. This is how conflict in Politics comes up. As twelve year old boys it seems impressive that they were able to establish a leader, but with every view point there is an opposing view point, which creates conflict, and in extreme, times like being stuck on an island, it can lead to war. Conflict with leaders is a major issue.

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    1. ChiliBeanMay 25, 2012 at 9:07 AM

      I guess the amount of conflict depends on how tightly knit the group is and the personality of the others: success would be the personalities are all passive.

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    2. Bieber FeverMay 30, 2012 at 9:15 AM

      I believe the main conflict is being able to form a democracy and find a middle ground between peoples views and beliefs, which is normally hard for any group to do..

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  6. Swagitude3May 25, 2012 at 8:54 AM

    What would you do after a plane crash and had to survive? There is goong to be natural leaders and followers. And in the positon of being a leader. Would you take complete control or would you rule fairly leaving yourself open for poeple who criticise your leader.

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    1. VoltronMay 25, 2012 at 9:01 AM

      If you tried to become leader, there would be other people trying to also take that position. How would you settle it out in the end?

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    2. AnonymousMay 25, 2012 at 9:03 AM

      If it was me I would lead fairly otherwise your actions may come back to harm you. Leading isn't about the leader it is about the followers, someone is only a leader when they have people following.

      runner12

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    3. ChiliBeanMay 25, 2012 at 9:09 AM

      When there is multiple leaders, there are multiple groups. When there is multiple groups, there are multiple conflicts. When there are multiple conflicts, there are multiple deaths. It is inevitable. It is just the way the cookie crumbles.

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    4. VoltronMay 29, 2012 at 9:53 AM

      I agree with ChiliBean. There really isn't a way to keep order unless the group can come together and unite under one leader. If they can't do this, chaos will follow.

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    5. Swagitude3May 29, 2012 at 9:59 AM

      @ Voltron.. That is my point. And the moral of the story, even if a leader is established there will always be someone trying to bring you down or overthrow you...

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    6. GhandiMay 29, 2012 at 10:02 AM

      well you don't want to be a super strict ruler either or no one will like you and they will try to take you out.

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    7. Bieber FeverMay 29, 2012 at 10:03 AM

      That is tough to say, I believe I would try to be open as much as I could to criticism and opinions. But to be a good leader you and your ideas have to be respected.....

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    8. FootballRocks25May 29, 2012 at 2:59 PM

      I agree, people have to find a good median. But a great ruler during the renassaince once said "it is better to be feared, than to be loved."

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  7. FootballRocks25May 25, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    How does this book relate to capitalism and communism? How did each group try to run their government. In a time of need and stress it appears that a communism form of government surfaces in this book due to the stress involved.

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  8. AnonymousMay 25, 2012 at 8:56 AM

    It's hard because people can have strong personalities and those can clash against each other. And when someone is actually in a hostile situation they're rarely ever thinking clearly so communication is difficult and very unlikely to actually work out.

    Gone67

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    1. FootballRocks25May 25, 2012 at 3:24 PM

      I agree with you. Both people when they have strong personalities often will not even think about seeing the other person's side. They are to set on their own to be willing to communicate. It takes somebody willing to listen to communicate.

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  9. AnonymousMay 25, 2012 at 8:58 AM

    It is extremely hard to communicate with others in a hostile situation, because everybody will have a different opinion on decisions that must be made. People will always fight for power and authority. Without teamwork and immediate agreement in a group there will be separation and anger. When everyone is worried and afraid they will shout out and talk over each other instead of Cammy listening what others say.
    -Big Boy Nigel

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    1. Bieber FeverMay 30, 2012 at 9:18 AM

      I agree I feel like causes to this could also be due to lack of food and having to take initiative in different situations that 12 year old boys don't usually face in everyday life conflict.

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  10. xyz478May 25, 2012 at 8:58 AM

    There is always people that want to become a leader and there are always people that want to follow a leader. This seems to be the problem that there might be kids who want to lead and if they don't get their way this will cause issues

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    1. AnonymousMay 25, 2012 at 9:14 AM

      I agree with this because many people with goals in their mind will stop at nothing to accomplish their goals. Why do so many people want to be leaders for their own personal gain, instead of making a difference? The best of leaders are also the best followers.

      runner12

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    2. AnonymousMay 29, 2012 at 9:56 AM

      I really agree with you, runner12, to be able lead well you need to look at the people your leading and think from their perspective.

      Gone67

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    3. Bieber FeverMay 30, 2012 at 9:20 AM

      I agree power in young boys eyes is usually always a problem even if it is deciding who's better at football. To be able to lead well you need to be forceful while staying reasonable, and find a middle ground between conflicts which in their situation seems to be impossible.

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  11. Professor MeowingtonMay 25, 2012 at 8:58 AM

    I think that it's hard because you are afraid that the hostile people will get violent if they don't agree with what you are saying so you are stuck worrying about death.

    -Professor Meowington

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    1. Bieber FeverMay 30, 2012 at 9:22 AM

      I agree I also think though if you avoid to cooperate it turns out being more hostile then human. But sometimes running away and taking the easy way out is easier to do then doing what's right.

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  12. AnonymousMay 25, 2012 at 8:59 AM

    I think it is hard to communicate in a situation like that because fear overtakes everything, including rational thought no one can think strait. tempers are mounted, and it probably doesn't take much to set someone off.



    Bluesparkles15

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    1. Bieber FeverMay 30, 2012 at 9:24 AM

      I agree I think what also may cause this is having to agree with other people who you don't like, because usually when you don't like someone it's harder to cooperate...

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  13. 48430:96May 25, 2012 at 8:59 AM

    It'd ahrd because everyone wants to be the hero and be in control of the situations. This causes people to not be able to connect with one another's ideas, which means communicating would be more difficult.

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    1. AnonymousMay 29, 2012 at 10:02 AM

      I agree, power is a big factor in a situation like this. Everyone wants to be the one who is remembered, the one who saved the day, and that can overpower rational thought. This sort of thing happens all the time and unfortunately it can't really be prevented.


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  14. AnonymousMay 25, 2012 at 8:59 AM

    When people don't have a leader or someone to keep the peace, we loose control. There is nobody to say who is right in an argument, so every one thinks ther're ideas are the only correct ideas. People then begin to fight over a potential useless idea. if they would have listened to each others ideas then some of the boys could have hunted while other gather and build.


    CookieMonster

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    1. AnonymousMay 26, 2012 at 7:14 PM

      ya, since people are worrying about who is going to take over, no one ends up taking control or more than one decided person takes control. Then, people get disorganized and end up getting nowhere.

      crazycat11

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  15. DogsMay 25, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    I think its very difficult to communicate because in the heat of a moment when your life is on the line you dont always consider all of the possible outcomes that can come from one specific action or decision.

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    1. FootballRocks25May 25, 2012 at 9:08 AM

      I agree with dogs. Often people will be illogical and not examine all the consequences and possible circumstances that will follow from each decision. They are often not thought out and do not work well.

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  16. AnonymousMay 25, 2012 at 9:01 AM

    It is hard to communicate with others when in hostile situations since they are more focused on blood and violence rather than diplomacy. Also when there are many in a group they all act different than what they normally would, a sort of mob mentality sets in and they are not the same person they would be if they were alone. With corrupt leaders it makes communication near impossible by a lone individual to an entire group.

    CaptainAmerica

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  17. mylittlepony911May 25, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    It is so difficult to communicate in a hostile situation because its a hostile situation. Everyone is more focused on fighting with each other and they are not focused on communication and solving there problems

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    1. xyz478May 29, 2012 at 9:59 AM

      Sadly this is true that people would want to fight instead of trying to help and work together. I would have to agree with this statement.

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  18. FootballRocks25May 25, 2012 at 9:03 AM

    Communication is very difficult in hostile situations because people often just want a solution and once relationships are strained with others this makes people not want to listen them. It becomes very hard and each side refuses to listen to the other.

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    1. SelenaGomezWantsMeMay 25, 2012 at 9:07 AM

      What would you say about trusting what people say in hostile situations? Can you trust what they say? Or is it every man for himself?

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    2. FootballRocks25May 25, 2012 at 3:27 PM

      I think it depends on previous experience. If it a good friend that had proven to be reliable I would listen, but if somebody hasnt proven so I would not listen. In a sense it is every man for themselves in hostile situatuins becuase they will only trust somebody if it has a positive outcome on them.

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  19. AnonymousMay 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    It was hard because everyone was out of control and worried about their own survival. Not all their ideas clashed together so they had to fight for what they wanted. Choosing an individual to lead may result in conflict because not everyone will like that persons ideas.

    dogsaybark123

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  20. xKINGwasabixMay 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    People need to work together to be successful. It showed in a book like this.

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    1. AnonymousMay 26, 2012 at 7:17 PM

      Although it is hard to work together in such a life threatening situation like this. But, yes the people in this boook need to get their act together and work with eachother.

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  21. AnonymousMay 25, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    it was so hard for the boys to communicate, because the boys were not mature enough to function properly without adults. If they had all worked together, they would have been able to get a lot of things done.

    Lalapolloza

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    1. AnonymousMay 29, 2012 at 10:33 PM

      I definitely agree with that because most of them were working for their own good. But it would have probably been the same result if only adults were stranded on an island since many adults also want power which would lead into conflict and violence like this book.

      Ak-man

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    2. AnonymousMay 30, 2012 at 9:54 AM

      8====> ~~~~~~~~~~

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  22. 48430:96May 25, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    When in hostile situations people need to be able to overcome the pressure and work as a whole. This will alow all the good ideas to be circulated into one great idea, which will lead to the finding of the young boys who were stuck on the island.

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    1. AnonymousMay 28, 2012 at 6:51 PM

      But these were not people they were young boys trying to fend on their own. I dont believe a group our age would be able to survive on there own, let alone young, immature boys

      Lalapolloza

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  23. xKINGwasabixMay 25, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Runner 12 makes a good point because if there was only leaders, they wouldn't be leaders. This could lead to chaos.

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  24. ilikecatsMay 25, 2012 at 9:09 AM

    The boys were scared and afraid that they would never make it off alive. They panicked and they each had different ideas of what was the most important thing to do first. Without someone acting as the authority figure and exhibiting leadership, they couldn't agree. The split up was inevitable because there were no ties or feelings of loyalty strong enough to make them willing to work it out.

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    1. catssaymeowMay 25, 2012 at 9:19 AM

      I agree with you completely, when people panic, they don't act like themselves. Someone had to step up and take charge of the group.

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  25. mickeyMay 25, 2012 at 9:09 AM

    Naturally i think humans are aggressive in situations when they feel themselves or someone close to them is being threatened. In this story i think the boy are scared for their own safety and are scared of others turning on them so they act out aggressively.

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  26. liampayne28May 25, 2012 at 9:10 AM

    I agree that most communication is lost when placed in hostile environments because people begin to hear what they want to hear, not what is actually being implied. Also when it is such an uncontrolled hostile environment people tend to split up in to groups and neither group will take the initiative to communicate.

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  27. AnonymousMay 25, 2012 at 9:10 AM

    I think its hard because people have fear against other people who could hurt them. People are scared that they will get killed if they speak against another opinion. So people get influenced by the leaders to act differently than what they think. But when they don't all have the same opinion, conflict usually arises. It also happen in the real world, when countries have civil wars from different opinions on a issue. People also is focused on how to get rid of the other opinion than getting to a peaceful agreement.
    -Ak-man

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  28. catssaymeowMay 25, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    I think it is hard to communicate with others in a hostile situation because your main focus is to make it out of the situation alive. You arent as concerned about everything else in the situation and may get caught up in the moment, struggling to live.

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    1. 48430:96May 25, 2012 at 9:16 AM

      That's what I was thinking. Everyone should learn how to control their emotions and be able to make it out of their situations. If you can control your emotions, then you have a better chance of making it out alive.

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    2. Bieber FeverMay 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM

      I highly agree with #cattsaymeow, because all of the reasons stated.

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  29. Kiwi4everMay 25, 2012 at 9:15 AM

    It is hard to communicate with others in a hostile situation because people don't want to listen. They believe that their opinion is correct, and thus yours must be wrong. We see this in politics all the time.

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    1. SelenaGomezWantsMeMay 29, 2012 at 8:39 AM

      I can understand where you are coming from. I believe that it is the rush you get in high pressure situations. You have made a very solid point

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    2. Bieber FeverMay 30, 2012 at 9:26 AM

      Yes I agree but the person who is peaceful stands behind what they believe and finds a middle ground usually wins.

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  30. AnonymousMay 26, 2012 at 6:33 PM

    It would be difficult to comminicate within a group considering the sitiation they are in. Most people would not want to step up to make a decision that could make the difference between life or death.

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    1. Bieber FeverMay 30, 2012 at 9:29 AM

      I agree I feel when everyday life is easy and you don't face diversity in high pressure situations people feel entitled.. And tend to not want to problem solve.. #YOLO

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  31. 48430:96May 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM

    In these situations most people want all the control, and working as a group no longer becomes part of the plan. What you have to remember is that in situations such as these, there is a lot of stress. These boys are children and they will make choices that fit their age group. You can not blame them, they are just kids.

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  32. AnonymousMay 29, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Sometimes I think people's priorities get mixed up and theur emotions get the better of them. Poeple need to take a breath and realize what is important. In order to work together people first need to get their heads straight and gather themselves.

    Squarepants

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  33. PinkSparklesMay 29, 2012 at 10:00 AM

    I think that sometimes when people are in a stressful situation they don't think clearly because they are so busy freaking out. Also, it doesn't help that in Lord of the Flies, it is a group of young boys with no adult supervision. Young children don't have as much experience as adults, so they wouldn't know that sometimes the best thing to do in a hostile situation is to calm down in order to see what's really important.

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  34. AnonymousMay 29, 2012 at 3:08 PM

    Well obviously no ones ever had any expierence in this situation so everyone was really just scared and didn't know how to handle it. So thats why I think the communication was so poor because everyone was so stressed and freaked out, it brought about anger and violence.

    Turtlessaynothing

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  35. PinkSparklesMay 29, 2012 at 4:48 PM

    Exactly, but adults have more experience with dealing in situations where not everything goes their way and they have to calm down to see what they should do. They don't necesarily have experience in a hostile situation but they usually do have enough experience dealing with sticky situations to apply it and realize that calming down is the only option.

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  36. NotInThisClassMay 30, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    I think this book is CRAZILY TERRIFIC. I recommend you read it if you've got #swag. Who else is excited for summer? Peace out my homie G English buddies.

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